DriftngAsh wrote:Spike -- you're just classic and IMO classic never goes out of style
KunJinky wrote:Overall score: 5.5 - Number ratings for anime reviews are silly and is an abuse of math.
review mk II wrote:This show blows.
KunJinky wrote:But why use an average? Normally it's an attempt to get an objective result, however it risks differing with a personal one. The suspicious thing is that the mathematical result is equivalent to your opinion, which makes me think you messed with the variables.
See the average fan doesn't appreciate X, Y, Z components in their head with equal weight. For one, it's in Japanese, duh. So the results are bound to be different from how averages are normally treated. But you're trying to pretend they're the same.
It seems the reasoning behind the variables values are inconsistent. The trick is resolving the discrepancy between what you think and feel. Say your eyes tell you animation was a "9", but you didn't get "9" enjoyment. Character design and choreography could detract from it. You can say (average-X) X being the detraction.
But it's problematic to make up the detraction by artificially reducing the other variables to generate the intended result. Then their individual value has no meaning. Even if it worked out coincidentally, it's inevitable the problem would show up again.
The thing is, the numbers don't have to add up. You're not bound by anything. Why bother?
By the way, did you honestly get offended by my previous post?
silverace99 wrote:How is my answer less helpful than no answer at all?
I consider all categories equally because as Jinky says, not everyone regards all categories equally. My personal score is one that stresses plot and characters, but I know plenty of people who care a lot less for that than they do, say, animation. Keeping my own tilt out of it lets people interpret the score to their own preferences which is a lot more helpful (unless you have the same preferences as me, which is not always the case). Just because I don't put that much stock in animation quality as compared to other categories doesn't mean other people won't (anime is animation, after all). If I stick my personal preference into the equation every time i make a review, than each time the reader would have to consider my bias. This way they don't have to. Your way of doing it is like Phillip-Morris arguing the benefits of cigarettes; Who would trust you?
And your "example" is ridiculous. Of course if you make over half the categories animation you're going to have a horribly skewed outcome. I'm really not sure what possessed you to come up with something like that ludicrous and then try to use it as an argument against how I do things. My average took 4 unrelated categories and gave them equal weight to protect against bias. YOUR average gives over 50% weight to one category, which is nothing like what I did. Like Kunkinky you're assuming I fudged some numbers just to make the right average score pan out, when i did not. I don't really understand why you guys think I made up numbers to satisfy and end. Is it because that's what you would do?
The IDEA here is to not just have a review where people go, "well that's just Silver's opinion". It's to look at it as objectively as possible. 4/10 is a below-average score, which is more or less the sum of Kurozuka's qualities. I think the number DOES indeed reflect the show and I don't think you really disagree, so I'm hard pressed to understand why you're so against it.
emetic wrote:The problem with your rating system is precisely that you've taken four random qualities to judge by and given them equal weightings. Why is "sound" equally as important as plot? Why have you omitted the direction, the art direction, the script and the symbolic undertones? Why have you lumped voice acting together with the OP?
What I'm trying to point out is that you've picked categories out of thin air and weighted them arbitrarily, but you're trying to say it's a fair and neutral judgment of the quality of the anime.
So yah... all this means is that the 4/10 you gave Kurozuka is based on your personal opinion of the particular qualities you decided to review (disregarding ones you feel unimportant), weighted in a way you feel is fair but may not necessarily be relevant, and overall is a score which doesn't even reflect your opinion of the show.
I just think that you'd be better off using comments and not trying to justify using a random number for a rating.
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