Shows that pull in a lot of anime boobs

[mrharvest]

You know what I'm talking about. There's every now and then a show that attracts swathes of the unwatched (edit: "unwatched?" – that was supposed to be "unwashed", amusing mistake) masses into watching anime. Elfen Lied, for instance. Or I suppose Naruto, Love Hina and Fullmetal Alchemist would fit the bill as well. Anything else you can think of from the recent years?

I'm not saying it's a bad thing but I've found it a bit strange. There doesn't seem to be anything in particular in common with the shows either, except that they all are shounen and generally average but then that's true for most shows.

[desterion]

cowboy bebop, evangelion, haruhi

[Shakedown 1979]

Bleach, DBZ

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Hell anything on Adult Swim

[volyund]

Bleach, DBZ

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Hell anything on Adult Swim

I was just gonna say anything that makes it to US TV.

[KunJinky]

There doesn't seem to be anything in particular in common with the shows either, except that they all are shounen and generally average but then that's true for most shows.

I guess you answered your own question in a way.

But I do hear of older people getting into it starting from getting Myazaki movies for their kids.
Popular manga and video games adaptations tend to draw some also.


And some shit is just straight up gangsta yo.

[Vlastokov]

Word

[silverace99]

great photo

[emetic]

Bleach, DBZ

...

Hell anything on Adult Swim

I was just gonna say anything that makes it to US TV.

Yeah, I'd say that's the main cause. Coincidentally, the US networks tend to pick up the stuff they know will be popular - the generic shounen crap which has lots of cool violence or nudity scenes which look really cool when they make the advertisements.
Love Hina's a bit of a mystery though... it has no cool action or nudity but random people all over seem to like it. HMM!

[mrharvest]

Bleach, DBZ

...

Hell anything on Adult Swim

I was just gonna say anything that makes it to US TV.

Yeah, I'd say that's the main cause. Coincidentally, the US networks tend to pick up the stuff they know will be popular

Yeah, I suppose it makes sense. But then I'm not entirely sure how well it applies here.

And -how- exactly do the networks know that those shows will be popular? The mind boggles.

[emetic]

Interesting indeed!
The things which quickly pull a big following on the 'net, I suppose.. though I think that the choice of the networks to promote an anime actually has a lot to do with its subsequent popularity. They can't get it right all the time, of course, but I'd say that if they jsut took any random anime, gave it a big advertising push, put it in a good timeslot on cartoon network and made lots of lame merchandise then it'd become quite popular.

I suppose I'm thinking it works in a sort of parallel to pop music. The business executive guys just get a feeling about something they think might make some money and they go with it.

[desterion]

love hina attracts the pedobears

[volyund]

Love Hina's a bit of a mystery though... it has no cool action or nudity but random people all over seem to like it. HMM!

What!? What about all of those hot springs and bath scenes that just had vapor clouds covering places? What about Keitaro conveniently falling on top of girls and grabbing their boobs. What about that drunken older chick coming on top of him with her yukata slightly messed up? I think that's plenty of nudity (granted, it's not like show-everything El Hazard type nudity, but still).

[Cataulin]

Love Hina's a bit of a mystery though... it has no cool action or nudity but random people all over seem to like it. HMM!

What!? What about all of those hot springs and bath scenes that just had vapor clouds covering places? What about Keitaro conveniently falling on top of girls and grabbing their boobs. What about that drunken older chick coming on top of him with her yukata slightly messed up? I think that's plenty of nudity (granted, it's not like show-everything El Hazard type nudity, but still).

its cuz of Shinobu <3

[Yumi]

why has no one said inuyasha? WHY?

I need that msn yacking smilie...

[KunJinky]

Interesting indeed!
The things which quickly pull a big following on the 'net, I suppose.. though I think that the choice of the networks to promote an anime actually has a lot to do with its subsequent popularity. They can't get it right all the time, of course, but I'd say that if they jsut took any random anime, gave it a big advertising push, put it in a good timeslot on cartoon network and made lots of lame merchandise then it'd become quite popular.

I suppose I'm thinking it works in a sort of parallel to pop music. The business executive guys just get a feeling about something they think might make some money and they go with it.

Nah, there's no direct correlation with the fansub scene and mainstream popularity. Lots of stuff prove otherwise.
What's popular in Japan doesn't work either or Detective Conan would be owning the ratings.
And I don't care how hard you market something like Kanon, it's just not going to do well here.

Not that these things don't factor in, just there's more guesswork involved.
There's looking at what did well in the past and still relying on things like test groups (which isn't very effective).

Love Hina was something I felt was just at the right place at the right time (I feel similarly with Elfen Lied). Looking back, it had decent production value. I suppose other popular harem series were drawing to a close and frankly not much else was out there. I'm wondering if there's some noob harvest thing going on.

[mrharvest]

Nah, there's no direct correlation with the fansub scene and mainstream popularity. Lots of stuff prove otherwise.
What's popular in Japan doesn't work either or Detective Conan would be owning the ratings.

This was what I was thinking when I posted the thread. The popular fansubbed shows are often (though certainly not always) quite different to those shows that seem to attract new viewers.

I seem to recall that a lot of the people who watched fansubs got started with Naruto because Hikaru no Go had been quite good.

In the early days I think most Western releases were however based on what was popular as fansubs. But the market dynamics have changed quite a bit since then. Here in UK Manga Video (sic) was the first contact with official released anime for many, excluding of course the few Ghibli films that made it here. But they were a right sorry excuse for a company and seemed to select the worst of everything and in the worst possible quality.

[KunJinky]

I was riding the coat tails of Initial D and GTO.

But I attribute it more from the boom with the success of Pokemon where the industry was licensing everything on sight. More stuff was being aired and con attendance started skyrocketing. I think I first saw Naruto from a fansub at a con actually. A lot of popular stuff was generated around that time, fmp, gits:sac aired in the same year.

But how early are you talking about?

[desterion]

well, studio pierrot puts out a lot of quality shows.

http://www.animenfo.com/animestudio,14, ... errot.html


sadly, a lot of them do tend to lean for fanbois

[mrharvest]

But how early are you talking about?

Early to mid-nineties I guess. I don't think there were that many licensed releases before that and though VHS fansubbing had been around from earlier (mid-80s I think?) it was fairly low profile.

But the thread was mostly about current popular shows. The dynamics were just different back then.

[KunJinky]

well, studio pierrot puts out a lot of quality shows.

http://www.animenfo.com/animestudio,14, ... errot.html


sadly, a lot of them do tend to lean for fanbois

I know you've mentioned this before, but I'm almost surprised you mention them since they're such a mainstream studio. Them and Toei are like the Hanna Barbara and Warner Bros of Japan. Nothing's wrong with that I suppose, I just find it oddly conservative.

[Yoritomo]

cowboy bebop, evangelion, haruhi

Evangelion achieved the same sort of cult following as maybe pulp fiction has in a more mainstream audience, maybe unwarranted - but by the same token, people that are drawn in by the bizarre and dark ideas of evangelion are more likely (stereotyping i know, but hey) to be drawn to things outside of normative programming. I think the most serious fans of evangelion do not fit your conception of "anime noob."

Cowboy bebop is a great show, great shows attract fans, some of them will be noobs, others not. Deal with it.

[volyund]

cowboy bebop, evangelion, haruhi

Those are just overrated, over popular shows. And I find that Evangelion fans are usually otakus rather than noobs.

Cowboy Bebob on the other hand was made with western theme, and thus was taken well by western audience.


I was more thinking along the lines of Tenchi Muyo. I watched some of it when I was little in Japan when there was absolutely nothing else on TV, and it was so boring I went to do my homework rather than watching it. And when people start saying how good it is, I think to myself that even Love Hina was much better.

[zellmer]

Evangelion, DBZ, Inuyasha, etc., etc.

DBZ/inu mostly because of the half retarded legion of little kid fans it spawned when it came over here.

Evangelion for all the piece of crap it was, yet the ungodly amount of praise it still receives from everyone. Freaking desperately tried to be deep and meaningful but was just worthless.

Gundam's and Robotech have forever left us with 30 generic mech series a year, and devoted fans who could care less so long as there's big robots fighting.

There's to many that make me angry, don't get me started..

[MagikerLilja]

I only recently started watching anime for real so i wouldn´t have a good enough comment on this yet knowing i might be one of those people...

But i like some of those mangas better than their animes as the anime is quite ugly. I like Love Hina manga but anime is just ridicalus.

[emetic]

Love Hina's a bit of a mystery though... it has no cool action or nudity but random people all over seem to like it. HMM!

What!? What about all of those hot springs and bath scenes that just had vapor clouds covering places? What about Keitaro conveniently falling on top of girls and grabbing their boobs. What about that drunken older chick coming on top of him with her yukata slightly messed up? I think that's plenty of nudity (granted, it's not like show-everything El Hazard type nudity, but still).

Hmm, I don't remember those scenes.. actually, I can't remember anything about the series except for a ping pong match and some retarded turtle that got really big. The old lady said "yare yare" a lot too... I remmeber that because she was kind of like Bunta from Initial D.
I was thinking Ninja Scroll nudity and violence anyway.

So anyway,
What's this about Detective Conan having a big net following?