The Missing 0.3 Gig

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The Missing 0.3 Gig

Postby belizeanvibes » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:00 am

Its been bothering me for a while now.
Why can I only write 4.4 gig of data on my 4.7 gig blank DVD?????
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Postby Cataulin » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:40 am

Im wondering that too. it kinda pisses me off that im missing .2. I feel jipped everytime I use a DVD.
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Postby Colje » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:42 am

the same reason why an 80 gig hard drive comes with 74 gigs.
the industry uses 1000 bytes = 1 kilobyte, but microsoft (not sure about linux) reads it as 1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
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Postby Cataulin » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:46 am

Linux reads data space the same as M$ if I remember correctly. Its still a shame that these companies cant come to 1 correct Size.


and its nice to see you not cursing at us Colje........ /no1
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Postby belizeanvibes » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:22 am

The average size of any given fansub has increased recently, especially with ogg and mkv format.
It would be nice if the you can still fit 26 episodes of fansub in one blank dvd.
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Postby Colje » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:51 am

Fansubs released at 170mb can fit 26 episodes on 1 DVD.
Fansubs released at 174mb can fit 24 episodes on 1 DVD.
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Re: The Missing 0.3 Gig

Postby Tursiops_G » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:05 pm

belizeanvibes wrote:Its been bothering me for a while now.
Why can I only write 4.4 gig of data on my 4.7 gig blank DVD?????
That's Normal... It's caused by the File System "Overhead" on the DVDR... ;)

The "Missing" 300MB or so of space on the DVDR is reserved for the DVDFS (File Allocation Table), Track/Sector boundaries, CRC Checksums, etc...

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Postby Sir_Brass » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:20 pm

The thing is that memory sizes have to be divisible by 8.

What we call 1 GB is actually a rounded number, b/c 1 GB is actually 1024 MB, not 1000 MB. It's not just M$ that does this but the entire industry, and not b/c they choose to, but because of how memory is stored. 8 bits to a byte and so on and so forth. 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, etc.

What I was made to understand, though, was that with the HDDs, the loss of space from supposed space is due to formatting not due to convention inconsistancies.
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Postby belizeanvibes » Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:20 am

Cool, thank you for the lesson Brass!
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Postby dark-kenji » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:39 pm

Sir_Brass wrote:The thing is that memory sizes have to be divisible by 8.

What we call 1 GB is actually a rounded number, b/c 1 GB is actually 1024 MB, not 1000 MB. It's not just M$ that does this but the entire industry, and not b/c they choose to, but because of how memory is stored. 8 bits to a byte and so on and so forth. 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, etc.


this is completely rite. but still.....

this kinda bothers me the:

1GB will be up 1024MB
4.7GB will be (1024x4.7) 4812.7MB

wouldnt there be more space on it then less....?
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Postby frumplstlskn » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:43 pm

No because it's the same space but lessened to be divisible by 8 because they can't create space.
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Postby emetic » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:46 pm

I feel like noting that someone decided 1024 bits is now a kibibit (kibit) rather than a kilobit (kbit).

hmm...
"A decimal kilobit is equal to 125 bytes, while a binary kilobit is equal to 128 bytes" also seems interesting. Wikipedia is cool.
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