Love = The Borg

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Love = The Borg

Postby Noumenitis » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:36 am

In a different thread, EvilSquirrel mentioned this gestalt entity named Lady_Rin that used to post here a year ago, way before my time. So - out of boredom - I went back and read some of her/his posts. The link to her/his profile is here: http://baka-updates.com/forum/profile.p ... ile&u=1499

And this person/these people creeped the hell out of me. Lady_Rin was a husband and wife team that used the same username and would post together within the same post. They colour-coded their names as a cutesy way of differentiating themselves from each other. And all of these dual posts started with the tag Together We... whatever the hell that means. The female half of Together We was supposedly an English capital-L Lady. And 90% of their posts - that might be an exaggeration, but not by much - revolved around how much they loved each other and how everything they did and said was an expression of their perfect, fairy-tale love.

I didn't start this thread to rip on Lady_Rin. But reading that shit deeply disturbed me, and I've been unable to get it out of my head, and here's why.

Supposedly - or to a lot of people - or at least to a lot of people in this forum - that seems to be the ideal of love. I'm basing that opinion on how polite everyone was to her/him at the time and how many people agreed that, yes indeed, Lady_Rin had found perfect love. Really? I mean... seriously? Or were you just all being polite? If you were, then the forum has changed a lot in the last year.

I've been in love a few times before and I've made the mistake of sacrificing my own individuality for the sake of preserving the relationship. Being in love feels great and it's pretty easy to make small sacrifices for the sake of maintaining that feeling. But once you get in the habit of putting the relationship before your own whatever-you-areness, it's pretty easy to keep making those small sacrifices without realizing that, at a certain point, you are NOTHING outside the relationship. The relationship becomes the only thing that defines you, and when it does so it has become a drug and you've become an addict, behaving in the same way all addicts do. It makes you pathetic, desperate and needy. So, by the standards of Lady_Rin, what is perfect love? Two mutually dependent addicts feeding off of each other, both unable to exist apart from each other because they are both equally void outside of the relationship. The only reason to maintain such a relationship is so that your fellow addict can feed your delusion that there's still anything left of you as a person.

How is this any different from the Borg in Star Trek? (I know that's a geeky reference but I couldn't think of a better one.) In both cases, you're sacrificing your individuality for the sake of certainty and peace of mind. You could say, "yah, but love is beautiful, and the Borg are machines...." Dude, I'm pretty sure that if the Borg wanted to, they could trigger whatever section of the brain feels pleasure or beauty. They've got all those implants in their heads. That's what's appealing about being Borg. Jolts of pleasure whenever you want them, to keep you going, but at the expense of free will and free thought and independence and... humanity.

What creeped me out about Lady_Rin even more was her/his constant need to sell her/his fairy tale love to everyone who would listen. If the love is so perfect... why bother? What's the point of convincing other people of its perfection? What the fuck? An excess of surface usually indicates a lack of substance.

And what creeped me out even MORE than that was that no-one in the forum barfed all over these two posers. True, they were polite, but they were such obvious phonies! You have no problem beating on people like OtakuDragon and phuc1983 - whose only crimes are that they're a bit dim - but when someone actually deserving of scorn comes along, you just let them go! And not only that, you agree with them!

AM I THE ONLY SANE PERSON IN THIS FORUM?!?!

There is no such thing as Lady_Rin's supposed ideal love, unless you're inbred and/or retarded. That's the only way any human being can be simple enough for complete subjugation to a relationship to be healthy or successful or rewarding. You have to maintain your individuality and your own interests apart from your partner. How fucking BORING would it be if you did absolutely everything together with the person you were gonna spend the rest of your life with? What could these fuckmorons possibly have to talk about to each other? "Mmm, great pasta, dear." "I love pasta." "I love pasta too." "I love you." "I love you too, dear." "Coochy-coochy-coo...."

BWAAAARF!!!

I had to get that off my chest. This is probably my longest post, which is quite an achievement. I doubt that anyone has read this far. Just in case silverace99 happened to read this far... I know. My long posts piss you off. Thank you for your input.

Anyway, discuss.

So ends the rant.
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Postby KasugaSan » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:05 am

People did bash this person....I think it was EvilSquirrel

I still think Lady_Rin is one person not two people sharing the account who just make up fairy tale love stories..... /hmm
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Postby Singyz » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:11 am

well back in the day (like when i joined anyway) the forum didn't seem as crude as it is today. Also grammar is rude and can be changed, personality is just the person, you can hate em, or barf, but that is them.

And by the way, that rant hit close to home. It made me realize I was going down that road (quite happily), which is the reason why I am going through what I'm going through now. It's all good by the way.
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Postby KunJinky » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:21 am

Try bolding the main points next time you write that much. >_>
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Postby Cataulin » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:53 am

tl;dr
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Postby Lucky-7 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:50 am

Oh yeah, I remember her.

She ran the second squirrel bashed her and never came back, so it might seem like we tolerated it for a long time when in fact her stay was extremely short.
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Postby derrio » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:56 am

You know what's creepy?

I think I've actually met her.
uchihashinobi wrote:well I was just wondering how far we could take it if we did it together

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Postby silverace99 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:50 am

Cataulin wrote:tl;dr


x10.


But yeah, lady_rin's stay at our forum didn't last more than a week I think. They took offense when someone (squirrel?) made a comment they didn't like, and when we told them to stop crying about it they just left.
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Postby Cataulin » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:59 am

derrio wrote:You know what's creepy?

I think I've actually met her.


was she hot?
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Postby derrio » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:00 am

No.

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No.
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Postby EvilSquirrel » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:53 am

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Postby Vlastokov » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:29 pm

All Faggot Tree will be BUrned down and killed with fire.
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Postby Shiawase » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:34 pm

I read it all... Half of it was gossip.

As to your question Noumen, I don't care how other people live their lives as long as they don't become pretentious and try to push their ideas on to others, and this includes definitions of love. I would think "perfect love" would be relative. Each person has their own ideals that they want to implement into the relationship.

And that "lady" needs to chill.

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Postby Lynk Stryfe » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:37 pm

silverace99 wrote:
Cataulin wrote:tl;dr


x10.



Diddums. If long posts bother you so much, go back go Gaia Online.
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Postby derrio » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm

Lynk Stryfe wrote:
silverace99 wrote:
Cataulin wrote:tl;dr


x10.



Diddums. If long posts bother you so much, go back go Gaia Online.


Fail.

GO is gHey. Emphasis on the H.
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Postby silverace99 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:20 pm

Lynk Stryfe wrote:
silverace99 wrote:
Cataulin wrote:tl;dr


x10.



Diddums. If long posts bother you so much, go back go Gaia Online.


nobody asked you.

I suppose I would feel more hurt if I knew what Gaia Online was.
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Postby derrio » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:30 pm

Gaia Online is a haven for 12-16 year olds.
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Postby EvilSquirrel » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:36 pm

silverace99 wrote:I suppose I would feel more hurt if I knew what Gaia Online was.


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Postby Lucky-7 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:43 am

Lawlz gaia


Are we set for another invasion soon? That place is as hard to troll as butter is to cut.

Back to the topic however.

Well, in every relationships there's bound to be compromises, that in itself doesnt equal a loss of individuality.
I mean, Ash makes me brush my teeth EVERYDAY @_@ Yet I still feel like the slob I've always been.

It's all relative.
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Postby Vlastokov » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:36 am

I'm more concerned with trolling places like www.beastforum.com, boybliss, cool-teens, etc.

Gaia is fucking gay. I don't even want to ever go back in there. I'd rather just bug the shit out of habbo.
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Postby Yumi » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:58 pm

Gaia= Gay guys who can't express their gayness,80 year olds looking for chicks, 10 year olds who want sex, bitches with no life

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Postby Cataulin » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:08 pm

Yumi wrote:Gaia= Gay guys who can't express their gayness,80 year olds looking for chicks, 10 year olds who want sex, bitches with no life

/no1


Sounds like my kinda bag........... B)
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Postby Yumi » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:13 pm

You go under the gay guy category DON'T YOU
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Postby derrio » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:08 pm

A little slow on the uptake, Yumi?
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Postby Cataulin » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:14 pm

Yumi wrote:You go under the gay guy category DON'T YOU


Nope. 80 year old men looking for young nubile underage girls.
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