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Postby volyund » Sun May 22, 2005 1:34 pm

Unfortunately most Christians (Disclaimer: by "most" I mean more than 70% of Christians, and I do not imply that it's 70% of Christians in this forum. In fact I believe that people in this forum as especially smart and tolerant, and thus fall into 30% that I do not consider "most".) do consider homos evil or lesser human beings... that's just the nature of mass religion Christianity is.
And according to Bible sex is supposed to be for PROcreation, and not REcreation, so that's why it would make sense Christianity wise to consider any method of birth-control evil. (Afterall the goal of Christianity is to increase the number of believers, and the easiest way to do it is give birth to more of them!)
Of course in this day and time it doesn't make sense, but that's "logic". And "logic" never has been the strong point of the Church.
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Postby Crimson » Sun May 22, 2005 1:39 pm

70% is pretty high there. In Italy and America probably, but I am pretty sure the French, British and most Germans dont really care.
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Postby KunJinky » Sun May 22, 2005 1:51 pm

Where is the "70%" comming from?
I ask simply because I don't know.

Does it consider denominations that accept gay ministers?
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Postby forbidden » Sun May 22, 2005 2:15 pm

:o That 70% makes me feel Evil and unwanted.
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Postby Xandra Kitee » Sun May 22, 2005 2:24 pm

Crimson wrote:Oh I really dont care about the HitlerJugend bit. I care about the fact he thinks all homosexuals are fundamentally evil as are condoms

Then every Pope was.

I don't see where following millennium's old beliefs is being a nazi. Plus, as far as I know, nazi considered homosexuel as sick or retard people (therefore without involving God) and I don't remember them having an Office of Propaganda against Condoms. O_o

I don't know the guy but even if he seems to be a conservative (oh ! oh ! what a surprise for a J.P. II's top-hand...) I really think that this comparison is a bit far fetched.


You can be against someone's beliefs but calling someone a nazi so easily is dangerous.
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Postby volyund » Sun May 22, 2005 5:06 pm

70% is from my own experience,
plus most of Catholics are intolerant,
most Orthodox are intolerant,
and about half of Protestants are intolerant.

So if you average it out, most Christians are intolerant.
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Postby zDooom » Sun May 22, 2005 5:09 pm

yea thats pretty much right
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Postby KunJinky » Sun May 22, 2005 5:24 pm

volyund wrote:70% is from my own experience,
plus most of Catholics are intolerant,
most Orthodox are intolerant,
and about half of Protestants are intolerant.

So if you average it out, most Christians are intolerant.

I see, I was getting confused since you said 70% of americans are christains too...
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Postby silverace99 » Sun May 22, 2005 6:05 pm

volyund doesn't even live in the US. how would he know?
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Postby KunJinky » Sun May 22, 2005 6:10 pm

silverace99 wrote:volyund doesn't even live in the US. how would he know?

uhm... she.
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Postby volyund » Sun May 22, 2005 6:40 pm

KunJinky wrote:uhm... she.
Wow, somebody remembered...

And under my avatar it says

Location: Near Seattle, WA, USA
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Postby DriftngAsh » Sun May 22, 2005 7:04 pm

volyund wrote:So if you average it out, most Christians are intolerant.

Religion doesn't have much to do with it. I'm pretty sure if you average it out people in general are just stupid.
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Postby Lucky-7 » Sun May 22, 2005 7:30 pm

DriftngAsh wrote:
volyund wrote:So if you average it out, most Christians are intolerant.

Religion doesn't have much to do with it. I'm pretty sure if you average it out people in general are just stupid.


*kicks the elephant*
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Postby silverace99 » Sun May 22, 2005 8:06 pm

volyund wrote:
KunJinky wrote:uhm... she.
Wow, somebody remembered...

And under my avatar it says

Location: Near Seattle, WA, USA
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my bad. i thought you lived in europe or something
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Postby volyund » Sun May 22, 2005 8:42 pm

DriftngAsh wrote:
volyund wrote:So if you average it out, most Christians are intolerant.

Religion doesn't have much to do with it. I'm pretty sure if you average it out people in general are just stupid.


You know, now that I think about it, you are probably right....
People tend to disapprove others that are different from them....
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Postby SeeG » Sun May 22, 2005 9:30 pm

heavenly blessed racist are the worst, no matter what race they are
at least i haven't heard, "everyone is racist in their own way" or "there are racist everywhere get over it" in here
it just bothers me how you can give justification for racism
but i do HATE dumb *abcd*s! /pif
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Postby KunJinky » Sun May 22, 2005 9:37 pm

I'll take a fundi over a nationalist any day.
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Postby forbidden » Sun May 22, 2005 9:44 pm

You can hate against christians all you want, but leave the catholics out of this.
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Postby volyund » Sun May 22, 2005 10:03 pm

forbidden wrote: You can hate against christians all you want, but leave the catholics out of this.

I currently don't HATE anybody, and I am very happy about it.
I however strongly dislike organized religions (except Buddhism) including the largest of them, Catholicism.That is because too much blood has been spilled in the name of Christian god (and other mass religion gods).

On the side note, I do have very good Christian friends, so I don't judge or dislike people based on their religion. But do judge and dislike religions.
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Postby silverace99 » Sun May 22, 2005 10:15 pm

forbidden wrote:You can hate against christians all you want, but leave the catholics out of this.


um... if i were to hate (but i don't, not too seriously) against any particular christian group it WOULD be catholics... as a group (not necessarily certain decent people like maybe forbidden) they tend to be the most guilty when it comes to trying to interfere with the freedoms and lives of non-christians. Or other christians, for that matter.
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Postby forbidden » Sun May 22, 2005 10:30 pm

As long as I make it clear to you all that I am not a part of that 70%, I'm happy. ^_^
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Postby KasugaSan » Sun May 22, 2005 11:06 pm

.....why do catholics hate jews???? ok i don't know much about christian related branch of religions but why do many ppl hate jews, since i see many of them criticizing...??? i know that not all of them hated jews but i just wonder why?

Anyways, if your grandparents and parents are racists...try to drag them out of America and travel the world.....let them learn about other cultures and its beauty.... :swt: just like a thai saying...."A thorn is embedded, take it out" or something like that.... /hmm i don't know why i'm saying this...everyone's a racist...no matter where they live.....even in thailand...students in thai school hated international school students...why the hell...hatred...so disgusting...
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Postby Supreme Dictator » Mon May 23, 2005 12:31 am

hmm...>_> a racism thread...how dangerous... No blood k?
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Postby volyund » Mon May 23, 2005 8:29 am

forbidden wrote:As long as I make it clear to you all that I am not a part of that 70%, I'm happy. ^_^
Again I made it clear that:
volyund wrote:(Disclaimer: by "most" I mean more than 70% of Christians, and I do not imply that it's 70% of Christians in this forum. In fact I believe that people in this forum as especially smart and tolerant, and thus fall into 30% that I do not consider "most".)

I really do believe (more and more with everyday of being here) that this forum represents better part of the world. That small percentage that is actually interesting, smart, and tolerant.

And yes, every country has racism, or some kind of discrimination. I was the only foreigner in my school in Japan, so I did get mass picked on. And that is percisely the reason that I would never make anyone feel that way.
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Postby Xandra Kitee » Mon May 23, 2005 8:39 am

KasugaSan wrote:.....why do catholics hate jews????

It's a bit outdated to say that since John Paul II did everything to establish warm relationships with others religions and especially jews. He even strongly comdemned and regreted the Holocaust (which is understandably very important to jews) when he visited Yad Vashem.

At the moment and with the current situation in Mideast, catholics are far from being jews worst enemies. Very far.

Now if you want a stupid historical explanation, they're supposed to have killed the son of God, the Messiah, Jesus Christ. ^^
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