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Postby Blade » Tue May 06, 2008 8:07 am

Unless I'm misunderstanding the poll question you're asking us if BA should stop listing any non-HD anime.

I think that would be a big mistake what would be a nice addition is to add tag/image/ what ever to show the resulation of the rip anime.

Wouldn't be a first time that I download a HD anime (which I can't play on my laptop) by mistake because it doesn't show on BA and some groups don't add it in the tags.

Anyways this is my 2 cents.
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Postby Cataulin » Tue May 06, 2008 2:29 pm

update your drivers and get coreavc as your H.264 codec and see if they play. then come back and whine if they do. BTW baka dosent actually say if its HD or not. you have to tell in the torrent file. :(
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Postby emetic » Tue May 06, 2008 10:58 pm

There's a post on the news page saying that B-U's software can't list multiple versions of each release. Interestingly enough.

So yeah, the poll's asking if we want to have only HD or only non-HD.

You can get a good indication of the resolution by the file size, which shows up on the tooltip if you hover on the episode name.
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Postby KasugaSan » Wed May 07, 2008 4:43 am

yah file size...it's 330MB on average for HD releases, but heck as long as i can watch it in HD tv (despite it being only 760p) nicely :lol:

otherwise go to tokyotosho if you wanna choose which file type you want =P
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Postby Blade » Wed May 07, 2008 10:10 am

Well if BU is only going to show HD releases I will have to leave it behind... I can't watch HD releases on my laptop or my desktop (i do have a gaming pc but its at a friends place <_<)

And yes even with coreavc it's not going to run well on a p3 or a p4 :>

It can't be THAT hard to add a extra row to show a small image (same size as the DVD image) with the texts xvid, 720p, 1080i etc.. Actually why not drop de DVD rip releases instead and replace them with "HD video" instead?

Also the size tooltip is almost never used.. heck you could replace that with actual file information a pop up like the size but with the resolution and the codec etc used would rock :r
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Postby Cataulin » Wed May 07, 2008 11:56 pm

Blade wrote: yes even with coreavc it's not going to run well on a p3 or a p4 :>



youve tried? It worked fine for my friends p4 2.8........
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Postby silverace99 » Thu May 08, 2008 12:07 am

I find that performance for h.264 has not much to do with your computer and a lot to do with your software.....typically when it's too jerky for media player classic I switch to zoomplayer as backup. It works fine then.

And my laptop is a puny p3 1.6, not exactly tops
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Postby Blade » Thu May 08, 2008 9:05 am

I do have coreavc installed on my p4 (2.4ghz) but it only has some SIS on board video card that is probably the issue. And even if the video is playing correct i usually get out of sync subs.

As for my laptop is a 1ghz P3 it runs linux but even if I run a media player from console it will lag

It also really depends on what sort of HD full HD won't work for shit most of the time but also depends on what settings the groups used to make the rip.

But yeah in the end I don't see why you would want to make BA HD only if they are really set on it they could leave the normal site in tact and do the same thing as they did with manga updates like make a baka-hd.com or something
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Postby Colje » Thu May 08, 2008 6:08 pm

how about first you stop calling us ba cause we are not ba
and if you think we should make another site, why not think why we havn't updated the current one yet. MAYBE IF YOU READ IN BETWEEN THE LINES YOU WOULD SEE MY HINT THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE SLACKING AND NOT REALLY WORKING ON IT SO NO ONE WOULD EVEN CODE ANOTHER SITE
and why should we still keep using the same format if the majority of people believe we should upgrade? because its not fair to the people who have slow pcs? go spend like 300 bux and you can get a pos pc that will play h264
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Postby Cataulin » Fri May 09, 2008 9:02 am

lol


yeah any p4 pc can run h.264. just get some more damn ram. also uncheck h.264 for ffdshow in the cccp settings.
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Postby Blade » Fri May 09, 2008 9:41 am

So? Why not try recruit some people willing to help out with making/redesigning a site. I'm sure from the many people that use Baka updates or manga updates one could and would be willing to help you guys out.

For one I'm not in the position of spending 300 euro on something like that especially considering I already have 2 pcs (the laptop and the gaming pc are mine) the gaming pc can easily play hd video the pc i usually use during the week days is not mine.

And (like I have been saying..) a p4 with 1 gig ram does not play HD video. (period)
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Postby Lucky-7 » Fri May 09, 2008 12:09 pm

wow, quite computer expert we have here...
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Postby Blade » Fri May 09, 2008 2:38 pm

well those are my spects for that pc... and it doesn't work so no hd video does not work on every p4 even if it has 1gig memory running a clean install of xp with coreavc.
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Postby Colje » Fri May 09, 2008 5:32 pm

who said 300 euro? we here are living in north america so it would be either cdn or usd which is pretty much the same right now. so that would translate to 200 euro? if you can play games on your pc but not hd videos, then it means the games you play have shit ass graphics anyways so it wouldn't be able to play anything new thats coming out. so in other words, upgrade to play new games.
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Postby Cataulin » Sat May 10, 2008 10:50 am

Blade wrote:And (like I have been saying..) a p4 with 1 gig ram does not play HD video. (period)



I dunno THENMAYBE ADD SOME STUFF TO YOU DAMN LAP TOP!!!!!


I HAD A P4 THAT PLAYED H.264 WITH MINOR GLITCHES AND IT ONLY HAD 512.

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Postby silverace99 » Sat May 10, 2008 12:53 pm

Blade wrote:And (like I have been saying..) a p4 with 1 gig ram does not play HD video. (period)


I have a p3 with 1 gig ram and it works fine.......with zoomplayer.

by logic, if my shitty little laptop can play HD, your p4 should be able to play it too -_-
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Postby KasugaSan » Sat May 10, 2008 10:24 pm

actually my comp is not even that up-to-date and it can still play HD w/ MPC fine

and the only thing that's new is a graphic card (which is not great and only meant for media usage but not games) and a second hand RAM (which is passed down from my bro after a year of usage)

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Postby Blade » Mon May 12, 2008 1:49 am

ok..

What do you people define as "HD"?

- Just because it's widescreen doesn't make it HD video
- Just because it's encoded in h264 doesn't make it HD video

So on what criteria are you going to allow anime releases on your site?
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Postby KasugaSan » Mon May 12, 2008 3:19 am

Didn't Colje answer those questions in the front page already?

and right, HD stands for high definition meaning high resolution no?
Nowadays many subbers do start to release high resolution files like 1280×720 (720p) -->a common resolution for HD

Besides, what Colje meant is probably that when a group releases multiple releases and there are choices between SD and HD (either one of them are in h.264 anyway; most of them anyway), then BU will choose HD over SD release

now if a subber still release in xvid/.avi or SD files alone, which is getting a little bit rare nowadays, then there's no choice but to use that release is there?

If you're so worried about not getting the type of files you want then why not just go to other sites that provide both releases like tokyotosho?
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Postby Lucky-7 » Mon May 12, 2008 9:13 am

Frankly, I rarely actually use the actual torrents on BU, what I like about it over other sites like tosho is that I can get a no-junk report of the anime released today, no raws, no manga, no j-pop music vids, no korean dramas, etc.


Then, once I know a show I like is out, I hit up my SEKRIT chan on irc and get my shit.

So frankly, the fact that it's HD or not is irrelevant to me.
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Postby Blade » Mon May 12, 2008 11:03 am

Well if it will happen like KasugaSan said then it won't as much

Any as lucky-7 pointed out this site nice because it's only about anime and not about all the other junk here you can just easily and quickly see what came out on what day.
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Postby KasugaSan » Tue May 13, 2008 9:23 am

you can actually customize it to view anime only in tokyotosho '_'
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Postby Lenmaer » Sun May 25, 2008 10:06 am

What I don't undertand is why then can add small "DVD" pic in front of dvd release and why they cannot do the same with just adding "HD" in front of HD release.

It's not that I'm against HD release, I would prefer to have both listed, because not everyone are using a PC to play animes.

But if there will be only HD release shown here then I'll have to switch to anime2leech because they list both type of release.
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Postby BlaspheMerius » Mon May 26, 2008 10:41 am

When I voted for this poll I took my time and read through the descriptive post very carefully. I cast my vote based on the fact that I took the meaning to be that at such a time as there were another site update, they might change it to include multiple links based on the definition of the files, if there were enough demand for such a thing. I felt it would be to good to have the options, since more and more people upgrade their computers all the time to be capable of it.

However, I myself typically choose to download the SD versions of files because I watch them on my large flat panel tv as streamed through my XBOX360. I prefer to sit back comfortably on my couch to watch my shows, as opposed to sitting really closed to my computer monitor. And for those of you who don't know, the 360 is only capable of watching in *.avi formats.

Quite frankly, I think it's all well and good to allow for options, but I do not always find the *.mkv/*.mp4 files to be superior in quality either. It's so easy for people to say "upgrade you computer, and then you don't have to worry!" or what have you. But most people cannot afford to do so. Most people still don't even have broadband internet, let alone a top of the line computer. It really makes me wonder about anyone who would think that a solution could or would be so simple. Are they rich; do they have really good jobs; or do mommy and daddy pay for everything?

I make my choices based on having information and all my options available to me, and having a computer that is capable of doing what I want with either choice. I think that to change things before the suggested time, and list only the HD versions would be a mistake. Does that mean that groups that don't make HD versions can't post links to the site at all?

I really feel that it would be a disservice to the many, just to accommodate the demands of the very verbal few. If the site permanently switches to HD only, I would no longer have a reason to use it's service. I would be forced to go elsewhere, to one of the many other sites which I could use instead if I wanted. But I hadn't wanted to before now, because I felt that BakaUpdates was superior. That's been thrown into doubt now.
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Postby emetic » Mon May 26, 2008 9:13 pm

Well, the majority tends to win things. It's unfortunate that there has to be a "one or the other" situation, but meh.
When b-u has a site upgrade then everything will be cool.

I guess that, now that b-u lists HD versions when there are multiple, it's the minority who prefer HD who will have to go elsewhere to pick their releases, just as the majority were going elsewhere to pick up releases previously.
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